Update to NOE 247 HP

[xdmalder]

Received my new NOE mold and finally got to do some testing with it. The new pins are wider but at the same depth of the orginals. I cast them COWW and water dropped them. Test firing it went through three 1 gallon milk jugs and into a 5 gallon bucket of mud. Bullet weighed 225 grains cast. The nose fragmented and the shank remained 169 grains. I'm am pretty happy with the results.

[Rooter pig]

Sounds like the lead was to hard to mushroom and stay together?

[xdmalder]

It was. Wasn't sure if it was just not going to expand or fragment. I don't believe it will be hard to get a mushroom though. If it is opening on water dropped wheel weights it will certainly open for softer and more malleable alloys.

[Rooter pig]

Thanks X. How did you size and lube?

[xdmalder]

I lube with BLL which is a very good lube in my opinion. And I size with a NOE sizing die.

[Rooter pig]

Thanks.

[yondering]

For hunting you don't necessarily need or want the nose to stay together. A bit of fragmentation can be a good thing, as long as it doesn't fragment too early and cause a shallow wound.

If you're testing in water jugs especially, I'd expect and look for nose fragmentation. Water is a worst-case scenario for this type of bullet and will cause more expansion & fragmentation than an actual animal.

[xdmalder]

For hunting you don't necessarily need or want the nose to stay together. A bit of fragmentation can be a good thing, as long as it doesn't fragment too early and cause a shallow wound.

If you're testing in water jugs especially, I'd expect and look for nose fragmentation. Water is a worst-case scenario for this type of bullet and will cause more expansion & fragmentation than an actual animal.

What kind of media would you suggest for testing expansion for best simulation. Wet paper pack?

[threehundred]

Received my new NOE mold and finally got to do some testing with it. The new pins are wider but at the same depth of the orginals. I cast them COWW and water dropped them. Test firing it went through three 1 gallon milk jugs and into a 5 gallon bucket of mud. Bullet weighed 225 grains cast. The nose fragmented and the shank remained 169 grains. I'm am pretty happy with the results.

I am very interested in what velocity you loaded these to, thanks.

[Boolit_Head]

Wet Paper pack is not a real good media either. The best would be ballistic gel.