Cart Before the Horse?

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Re: Cart Before the Horse?

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individuals do not submit 4473's. thats a form for sale from a dealer to an individual.

michigan's pistol sales record is form RI-60. This is also the same form used when registering a stripped lower that was 4473'ed as an "other" as a pistol.


regardless how you feel about the registration requirements for pistols, michigan firearm laws are what they are and until it changes we have to deal with it.




since you don't own the lower yet - you said you're going to purchase it on the 3rd - call the dealer you're going to buy it from and ask them how it transfers .... weather they transfer it as rifle, pistol, or other on the 4473.

this may save a lot of "what if" speculation and then folks can help guide you better going forward - including if/when you talk to james.
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plant.one wrote: since you don't own the lower yet - you said you're going to purchase it on the 3rd - call the dealer you're going to buy it from and ask them how it transfers .... wheather they transfer it as rifle, pistol, or other on the 4473.
They better transfer it as "other" because they have no idea or control over how you will build it.
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plant.one wrote:individuals do not submit 4473's. thats a form for sale from a dealer to an individual.

michigan's pistol sales record is form RI-60. This is also the same form used when registering a stripped lower that was 4473'ed as an "other" as a pistol.


regardless how you feel about the registration requirements for pistols, michigan firearm laws are what they are and until it changes we have to deal with it.




since you don't own the lower yet - you said you're going to purchase it on the 3rd - call the dealer you're going to buy it from and ask them how it transfers .... weather they transfer it as rifle, pistol, or other on the 4473.

this may save a lot of "what if" speculation and then folks can help guide you better going forward - including if/when you talk to james.
\I know I dont submit a 4473, but I have to fill it out, and Im trying to do it correctly. Since I havent gotten it yet, I definitely wanted to find out this week. I emailed James, and hope that he returns it.
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smustian wrote:
plant.one wrote: since you don't own the lower yet - you said you're going to purchase it on the 3rd - call the dealer you're going to buy it from and ask them how it transfers .... wheather they transfer it as rifle, pistol, or other on the 4473.
They better transfer it as "other" because they have no idea or control over how you will build it.
This is what I will do. I did not know that "other" was an option, until this thread.

I am so thankful for the information, and the patience that you all have had with me.
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smustian wrote:
plant.one wrote: since you don't own the lower yet - you said you're going to purchase it on the 3rd - call the dealer you're going to buy it from and ask them how it transfers .... wheather they transfer it as rifle, pistol, or other on the 4473.
They better transfer it as "other" because they have no idea or control over how you will build it.
Now that they know you want to SBR it, they may make you do a Form 3
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golfindia wrote: Now that they know you want to SBR it, they may make you do a Form 3
No. You have to submit a Form 1 and $200 and be approved, then you can SBR your build.
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smustian wrote:
golfindia wrote: Now that they know you want to SBR it, they may make you do a Form 3
No. You have to submit a Form 1 and $200 and be approved, then you can SBR your build.
The form three will be between the sending and receiving dealers for the SBR/NFA stripped lower. The only way around that would be to do a form 1 and add a form 2 which makes it the equivalent of a form 3 and it will still be < form 4. Then he can fill out the 4473 without the RI-60 in triplicate.
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....between state and federal requirements it can become....DAYUM!!! :shock: :cry:

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its almost as confusing as understanding IKEA assembly instructions


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This is the result of fighting from the ballot box.
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