case separation. Please help

Moderators: gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem

Ciliman21
Silent Operator
Posts: 64
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:08 pm
Location: Central Ca

case separation. Please help

Post by Ciliman21 »

Had a case separate about a 1/2 " from the base after it was fired(191th rd of the day). The upper portion was stuck in the camber. I got it out.

Me a question is what could cause this?

Specs

Daniel defense 10" upper About 500 rds though it (this was the first issue).

Case PNW ARMS 300 BLK. 1rst or 2nd reload
Bullet 150gr sierra spitzer #2130
13.4 accurate #9(#88 lee auto disk. Check powder weight on scale every 10 or so rds)
Cci41 primer
2.116. Col(no reason just where is landed)

Lee dies with factory crimp set up per instruction

Also had slightly flat primers and some cases not all.

All rounds chambered fine and all fit sheridan gauge.

At 50 yrd with a with a vortec sparc it hold very tight groups. (By my standards)

Image

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
User avatar
Dr.Phil
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 1654
Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:50 pm

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by Dr.Phil »

Bad luck on brass is all.
From your description, your loads were all safe.

What was the head stamp on the PNW brass?
"Don't tell fish stories where the people know you; but particularly,
don't tell them where they know the fish."
--Mark Twain
User avatar
dead-bird
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 660
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:56 pm
Location: Emerald Coast

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by dead-bird »

Brass stretches normally with use and eventually, over time, wears out.

You just found the upper limit on that particular piece of brass.
batman4706
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 176
Joined: Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:48 am

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by batman4706 »

I've had a few of those, that's why I do the "paper clip test" on all my cases prior to processing. Since using this procedure I haven't had any separations, I have caught a number of bad cases before sizing.
remannino
Member
Posts: 20
Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:26 pm

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by remannino »

batman4706 wrote:I've had a few of those, that's why I do the "paper clip test" on all my cases prior to processing. Since using this procedure I haven't had any separations, I have caught a number of bad cases before sizing.


What is the paper clip test?
User avatar
mrgein
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 501
Joined: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:52 pm
Location: arkansas

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by mrgein »

dead-bird wrote:Brass stretches normally with use and eventually, over time, wears out.

You just found the upper limit on that particular piece of brass.
Actually with out knowing how many times it had been fired he really didn't find anything.
dillon 650xl
AAC 16" upper
AAC NiB full auto BCG
Raptor CH
KAC URX3.1 13.5"
Ambush lower
Geissele SSA trigger
Savvy Sniper Quad Dual QD sling
IMR 4227
Hornady Custom Dies
User avatar
mrgein
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 501
Joined: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:52 pm
Location: arkansas

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by mrgein »

remannino wrote:
batman4706 wrote:I've had a few of those, that's why I do the "paper clip test" on all my cases prior to processing. Since using this procedure I haven't had any separations, I have caught a number of bad cases before sizing.


What is the paper clip test?
+1
dillon 650xl
AAC 16" upper
AAC NiB full auto BCG
Raptor CH
KAC URX3.1 13.5"
Ambush lower
Geissele SSA trigger
Savvy Sniper Quad Dual QD sling
IMR 4227
Hornady Custom Dies
bunnellbob
Silent Operator
Posts: 51
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:10 pm
Location: FL.

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by bunnellbob »

Some guy"s use a slightly bent paper clip, or a dental pick, to set down inside the shell to "feel" for grooves. This could tell you possibly in advance you might need to discard that case before something might happen to it.(case seperation) Hope this helps :!:
Ciliman21
Silent Operator
Posts: 64
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:08 pm
Location: Central Ca

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by Ciliman21 »

Dr.Phil wrote:Bad luck on brass is all.
From your description, your loads were all safe.

What was the head stamp on the PNW brass?

That is the head stamp that I posted.

And I since have checked 300 of my 600 cases with a paper clip they all felt fine.

I'm going to reset my dies and make sure the cases get lubed appropriately.

Thanks for the input
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Ciliman21
Silent Operator
Posts: 64
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:08 pm
Location: Central Ca

Re: case separation. Please help

Post by Ciliman21 »

secondary question. 100rnds for the day were 150 hornady boattails, the last 100 was sierra flat base. most of the sierra bullets had flat primers and the hornady didnt not all rounds loaded at the sametime.

so will flat base bullets have higher pressure?
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Amazon [Bot] and 147 guests