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Re: Looking for experienced subsonic reloaders

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:06 pm
by Maryland_Shooter
Good point

Re: Looking for experienced subsonic reloaders

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:37 pm
by sranch
great let us know your load data. And please Cronograph them!

get a ProCrono Digital for $120 if you dont have one. They're great.

Re: Looking for experienced subsonic reloaders

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:47 pm
by Peace
Legionaire wrote:... Dont take this wrong but not knowing how much you know about the ar and i know that some people think a 16" is always a carbine gas system based on the barrel being 16" do you know the difference between carbine and pistol port location? I dont doubt what you are saying i just want to make sure you are not one of the people who think all 16" barrels are a carbine gas system. If you do have a carbine gas system then i need to get some subs loaded with h110 and see if i can get it to work in mine. Did you run it suppressed? Im guessing it will be quieter than 1680 and 5744.

Not quite sure who this post was directed to but while I'm no armorer, I've built 5 ARs in less than a year and have the propensity to over study and analyze just about everything. In most cases to a fault. So yes, I know the difference between gas tube lengths regardless of what size barrel their on.

I will say that the H110 is hard to keep consistent at lower charges. The string I posted before was probably more luck than anything. Other loads, while subsonic, we're not that consistent. Again, all cycled but failed to lock the bolt.

I've had better consistency and results with IMR 4198. Details here:
viewtopic.php?p=781558#p781558

No suppressors... yet.

Re: Looking for experienced subsonic reloaders

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:47 pm
by Peace
sranch wrote:... get a ProCrono Digital for $120 if you dont have one. They're great.
I second that, great Chrono for the money.

Re: Looking for experienced subsonic reloaders

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:52 pm
by Legionaire
Peace wrote:
Legionaire wrote:... Dont take this wrong but not knowing how much you know about the ar and i know that some people think a 16" is always a carbine gas system based on the barrel being 16" do you know the difference between carbine and pistol port location? I dont doubt what you are saying i just want to make sure you are not one of the people who think all 16" barrels are a carbine gas system. If you do have a carbine gas system then i need to get some subs loaded with h110 and see if i can get it to work in mine. Did you run it suppressed? Im guessing it will be quieter than 1680 and 5744.

Not quite sure who this post was directed to but while I'm no armorer, I've built 5 ARs in less than a year and have the propensity to over study and analyze just about everything. In most cases to a fault. So yes, I know the difference between gas tube lengths regardless of what size barrel their on.

I will say that the H110 is hard to keep consistent at lower charges. The string I posted before was probably more luck than anything. Other loads, while subsonic, we're not that consistent. Again, all cycled but failed to lock the bolt.

I've had better consistency and results with IMR 4198. Details here:
viewtopic.php?p=781558#p781558

No suppressors... yet.
Sounds like i should try h110 in my gun. I never tried subs with h110 because every post i read about it in carbine gas systems it did not work until this post. I will load some up and give full details including velocities.

Re: Looking for experienced subsonic reloaders

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:00 pm
by Maryland_Shooter
Peace wrote:
Legionaire wrote:... Dont take this wrong but not knowing how much you know about the ar and i know that some people think a 16" is always a carbine gas system based on the barrel being 16" do you know the difference between carbine and pistol port location? I dont doubt what you are saying i just want to make sure you are not one of the people who think all 16" barrels are a carbine gas system. If you do have a carbine gas system then i need to get some subs loaded with h110 and see if i can get it to work in mine. Did you run it suppressed? Im guessing it will be quieter than 1680 and 5744.

Not quite sure who this post was directed to but while I'm no armorer, I've built 5 ARs in less than a year and have the propensity to over study and analyze just about everything. In most cases to a fault. So yes, I know the difference between gas tube lengths regardless of what size barrel their on.

I will say that the H110 is hard to keep consistent at lower charges. The string I posted before was probably more luck than anything. Other loads, while subsonic, we're not that consistent. Again, all cycled but failed to lock the bolt.

I've had better consistency and results with IMR 4198. Details here:
viewtopic.php?p=781558#p781558

No suppressors... yet.
OK, I have another test to do. Thanks for the contribution.

Re: Looking for experienced subsonic reloaders

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:08 am
by imyomama
i ordered 500 sub lead .. delivered for $85 ... that's .17 a round ... they weight a little less than advertised 245's scale at 238-239 on average!

still for the price and performance (they will hit hard!!) i think it's a winner for cheap subs !