Same as above w/208's & Lil Gun but using LC brass fm Wildcat
The magnetospeed wouldn't read all the rounds but everything cycled and locked back
3 ea.:
6.5gr 925fps (only one read)
7.0gr 1014,1016,1015
tried some 4064 w/ 110 VMAX all cycled but no lock back and only one read
LC brass and rest same as previous post
6.0 gr 1016fps
7.0 gr no read but actually sounded quieter than the 6gr load
forgot to include in spec: Carbine buffer w/ regular spring. The carbine spring is on the way.
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Re: Share your 300 Blackout Loads here>
Any way you can just add this in the Lil'Gun powder thread. I am trying (with zero luck I might add) to get folks to created and add to powder-specific threads.hypertex wrote:Same as above w/208's & Lil Gun but using LC brass fm Wildcat
The magnetospeed wouldn't read all the rounds but everything cycled and locked back
3 ea.:
6.5gr 925fps (only one read)
7.0gr 1014,1016,1015
tried some 4064 w/ 110 VMAX all cycled but no lock back and only one read
LC brass and rest same as previous post
6.0 gr 1016fps
7.0 gr no read but actually sounded quieter than the 6gr load
forgot to include in spec: Carbine buffer w/ regular spring. The carbine spring is on the way.
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Any way you can just add this in the Lil'Gun powder thread. I am trying (with zero luck I might add) to get folks to created and add to powder-specific threads.hypertex wrote:Recently put together an AR and love the subsonics.
Noveske 16" 1:7 barrel
Pistol length gas
Standard buffer and spring
OPSINC 12th suppressor
Lil Gun powder
CCI BR4 primer
Winchester modified 223 brass
Hornady 208 AMAX
COL 2.140
8.0gr >>>1092fps (1 MOA @ 100yds w/Bushnell zoom dot)
7.8gr >>>1060fps
Working on figuring out the AR loads for the light bullets now.
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I finally got my chrono working and ran the above loads. The 150 fmj was 2000 fps and the 155 A-Max was 1985 fps. I also tried the 140 gr Sierra Match King seated to 2.100" over 16.5 gr 296 and it clocked 2050 fps.ebg3 wrote:Finally got out to shoot my 20" AR. I tried a Hornady 150 FMJ seated to 2.20" and loaded with 16.5gr of "old" WW296. This powder is in a metal 4 lb can but it looks and smells good. I did not chrono but primers still look rounded. Accuracy was not too good, 1.25" for 3 shots at 100 yards. I'll increase the charge a bit and try it again.
I also loaded 16.5gr of above powder behind a 155gr AMAX seated to 2.26" and my last three shot group was a little over 0.4" at 100 yards. Again, the primers were rounded and pressure seems low to moderate. I'll try this again and increase the charge until I see some more pressure. All brass ejected at 4 o'clock and 3-4 feet, does not seem over-gassed.
Gun info:
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1-12" twist
Carbine gas tube
0.110" gas port(really about 0.108")
Re: Share your 300 Blackout Loads here>
208 A-max over 10.6 grains 1680,rem primers.Less then 1 inch at 50 meters.7 shot groups,1060 fps.Sounded very good out of my DCA 16 inch upper with mystic.Only thing I could hear was the bolt cycling and the bullet slap the backstop.
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I'm running a CMMG 16" rifle with a carbine tube. I loaded and tested some of my own loads and found consistent success with cycling and speed.
Brass: 300BLK Rem. factory
Bullet: 147 gr. FMJBT - U.S. Pulldown Polished
Primer: CCI 450 Magnum
Powder: H110 at 16.0 gr.
COAL: 2.140"
No Crimp on the brass
I ran 10 rounds through the chrony, 1890, 1888, 1878, 1893, 1882, 1896, 1889, 1836, 1896, 1885. Avg - 1883.5 fps. Energy - 1181.2 ft/lbs.
I still need to dial in more for accuracy. I can bring the speeds up a bit more, but I thought this was a great place to be sitting for a starting point.
Brass: 300BLK Rem. factory
Bullet: 147 gr. FMJBT - U.S. Pulldown Polished
Primer: CCI 450 Magnum
Powder: H110 at 16.0 gr.
COAL: 2.140"
No Crimp on the brass
I ran 10 rounds through the chrony, 1890, 1888, 1878, 1893, 1882, 1896, 1889, 1836, 1896, 1885. Avg - 1883.5 fps. Energy - 1181.2 ft/lbs.
I still need to dial in more for accuracy. I can bring the speeds up a bit more, but I thought this was a great place to be sitting for a starting point.
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A few more loads.
As before, all loads fired through a 16" 300 Fireball upper with carbine gas. Brass is Remington 221 Fireball. Primers are CCI 41.
1. Speer 125 grain TNT - COAL 2.050" - 18.4 grains H110 - 1 shot - 2190 fps - BADLY BLOWN PRIMER
Quickload predicts 47.5K psi and 2143 fps
2. Lapua 100 grain HPCE - COAL 1.885" - 17.6 grains H110 - 1 shot - 2337 fps - looked like a light primer swipe, decided not to shoot any further H110 loads
Quickload predicts 46K psi and 2267 fps
3. Nosler 125 grain Ballistic Tip - COAL 2.150" - 5 shots each - I think this is the limit for 1680, no improvement by upping the powder charge
20.7 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 53K psi and 2151 fps
AVG 2052
ES 34
SD 16
20.8 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 54K psi and 2162 fps
AVG 2034
ES 68
SD 27
20.9 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 55K psi and 2174 fps
AVG 2039
ES 18
SD 7
4. Lapua 100 grain HPCE - COAL 1.885" - 18.7 grains Acc. 1680 - 5 shots - QL predicts 45K psi and 2119 fps
AVG 1897
ES 62
SD 20
5. Hornady 150 grain FMJ - COAL 2.135" - 5 shots each, again I think this is the limit for 1680
19.0 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 56K psi and 1968 fps
AVG 1906
ES 44
SD 17
19.1 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 57K psi and 1979 fps
AVG 1907
ES 42
SD 16
19.2 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 58K psi and 1990 fps
AVG 1908
ES 28
SD 11
6. Prvi 190 grain HPBT - COAL 2.050" - 13.8 grains Acc. 1680 - 5 shots - QL predicts 53K psi and 1555 fps
AVG 1339
ES 91
SD 36
7. Nosler 168 grain Ballistic Tip - COAL 2.230" - 5 shots each
16.0 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 45K psi and 1695 fps
AVG 1521
ES 30
SD 14
16.2 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 48K psi and 1716 fps
AVG 1514
ES 48
SD 19
16.4 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 50K psi and 1738 fps
AVG 1539
ES 43
SD 16
16.6 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 52K psi and 1760 fps
AVG 1546
ES 23
SD 9
16.8 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 54K psi and 1783 fps
AVG 1570
ES 64
SD 23
17.0 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 56K psi and 1805 fps
AVG 1589
ES 25
SD 9
As before, all loads fired through a 16" 300 Fireball upper with carbine gas. Brass is Remington 221 Fireball. Primers are CCI 41.
1. Speer 125 grain TNT - COAL 2.050" - 18.4 grains H110 - 1 shot - 2190 fps - BADLY BLOWN PRIMER
Quickload predicts 47.5K psi and 2143 fps
2. Lapua 100 grain HPCE - COAL 1.885" - 17.6 grains H110 - 1 shot - 2337 fps - looked like a light primer swipe, decided not to shoot any further H110 loads
Quickload predicts 46K psi and 2267 fps
3. Nosler 125 grain Ballistic Tip - COAL 2.150" - 5 shots each - I think this is the limit for 1680, no improvement by upping the powder charge
20.7 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 53K psi and 2151 fps
AVG 2052
ES 34
SD 16
20.8 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 54K psi and 2162 fps
AVG 2034
ES 68
SD 27
20.9 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 55K psi and 2174 fps
AVG 2039
ES 18
SD 7
4. Lapua 100 grain HPCE - COAL 1.885" - 18.7 grains Acc. 1680 - 5 shots - QL predicts 45K psi and 2119 fps
AVG 1897
ES 62
SD 20
5. Hornady 150 grain FMJ - COAL 2.135" - 5 shots each, again I think this is the limit for 1680
19.0 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 56K psi and 1968 fps
AVG 1906
ES 44
SD 17
19.1 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 57K psi and 1979 fps
AVG 1907
ES 42
SD 16
19.2 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 58K psi and 1990 fps
AVG 1908
ES 28
SD 11
6. Prvi 190 grain HPBT - COAL 2.050" - 13.8 grains Acc. 1680 - 5 shots - QL predicts 53K psi and 1555 fps
AVG 1339
ES 91
SD 36
7. Nosler 168 grain Ballistic Tip - COAL 2.230" - 5 shots each
16.0 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 45K psi and 1695 fps
AVG 1521
ES 30
SD 14
16.2 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 48K psi and 1716 fps
AVG 1514
ES 48
SD 19
16.4 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 50K psi and 1738 fps
AVG 1539
ES 43
SD 16
16.6 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 52K psi and 1760 fps
AVG 1546
ES 23
SD 9
16.8 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 54K psi and 1783 fps
AVG 1570
ES 64
SD 23
17.0 grains Acc. 1680 - QL predicts 56K psi and 1805 fps
AVG 1589
ES 25
SD 9
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Re: Share your 300 Blackout Loads here>
I have shot a lot of 1680 and it tends to be the most miserably inconsistent powder in the 300.
The best I have tested has been Lil'Gun with single digits SD. I have shot about a 1/2 pound of this powder with my 240 grain cast bullets and with my load they run 1,025 fps. I have yet to see a velocity that is over 1,030 fps or under 1,020 fps. I think with consistent numbers like this it take one more variable out of finding a accurate load. It may or may not contribute to accuracy but is can't hurt.
Next would be H4227 which gives SD's in the low teens with my cast bullets. A 2015 even cycles my gun and gives decent accuracy.
I am running a 16" barrel with a 093" gas port with a pistol length gas system.
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The best I have tested has been Lil'Gun with single digits SD. I have shot about a 1/2 pound of this powder with my 240 grain cast bullets and with my load they run 1,025 fps. I have yet to see a velocity that is over 1,030 fps or under 1,020 fps. I think with consistent numbers like this it take one more variable out of finding a accurate load. It may or may not contribute to accuracy but is can't hurt.
Next would be H4227 which gives SD's in the low teens with my cast bullets. A 2015 even cycles my gun and gives decent accuracy.
I am running a 16" barrel with a 093" gas port with a pistol length gas system.
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16" barrel 1 in 8 twist
carbine gas length
gas port .107
mixed brass trimmed to 1.358 +or- .002
16.8gr w296 im told this is the same as h110
cci 400 primers
hornady 150gr sst seated to cannelure and crimped
oal is 2.10
I tried from 16.5gr to 17gr with good results with 16.8 being the most accurate
anything over 17gr show preasure signs
cycles,self feeds and locks bolt back reliably in my AR and did a number on a deer sat morning at 45 yards
carbine gas length
gas port .107
mixed brass trimmed to 1.358 +or- .002
16.8gr w296 im told this is the same as h110
cci 400 primers
hornady 150gr sst seated to cannelure and crimped
oal is 2.10
I tried from 16.5gr to 17gr with good results with 16.8 being the most accurate
anything over 17gr show preasure signs
cycles,self feeds and locks bolt back reliably in my AR and did a number on a deer sat morning at 45 yards
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Just shot some 155gr Nosler CC bullets over 17.5gr WW-296 and CCI small rifle primers. OAL = 2.20"
No picture but three shot group at 100 yards is just under 0.5" and this was shot with a 1-4 Burris TAC-30 scope. Barrel is 20", 1-12" twist Shilen with a carbine length gas setup. Velocity is a little over 2100fps. This barrel seems to be very accurate at 100 and 200 yards with 150gr SST, 155gr A-Max and 155gr CC bullets. When I get a chance, I'll move out to 300 and 400 yards to see if my slow twist starts to open groups up( I think it will).
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No picture but three shot group at 100 yards is just under 0.5" and this was shot with a 1-4 Burris TAC-30 scope. Barrel is 20", 1-12" twist Shilen with a carbine length gas setup. Velocity is a little over 2100fps. This barrel seems to be very accurate at 100 and 200 yards with 150gr SST, 155gr A-Max and 155gr CC bullets. When I get a chance, I'll move out to 300 and 400 yards to see if my slow twist starts to open groups up( I think it will).
EG
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