suppressor compatible handguards?

Moderators: gds, bakerjw, renegade

Animal
Member
Posts: 15
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:45 pm

suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by Animal » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:03 pm

I am looking for suppressor compatible hand guards.

So far, I have found:
-Midwest Industries
-Seekins
-YHM

Are the any others?

BulletFlight for Android
alamo5000
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 213
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:01 pm

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by alamo5000 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:02 pm

What exactly do you mean "compatible"? There are a gazillion of them that are 'compatible'. If the hand guard isn't too long for the barrel then it's 'compatible'.

The best fitting ones I've ever seen are from SLR. They make hand guards at very otherwise odd lengths to ensure a close fitment.

If you are talking about something that is 'tucked under' the rail, that's a whole other animal that has nothing to do with compatibility. If you do mean something big enough ID to tuck a suppressor inside of it that is something I would never do nor recommend for anyone else to do either.

Animal
Member
Posts: 15
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:45 pm

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by Animal » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:51 am

"Suppressor compatible" is an industry term meaning they are extra wide fit over a suppressor.

alamo5000
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 213
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:01 pm

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by alamo5000 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:09 am

Animal wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:51 am
"Suppressor compatible" is an industry term meaning they are extra wide fit over a suppressor.
Been around the industry for a while now and I've never heard that before.


User avatar
dellet
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 6447
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:25 pm

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by dellet » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:00 pm

Animal wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:03 pm
I am looking for suppressor compatible hand guards.

So far, I have found:
-Midwest Industries
-Seekins
-YHM

Are the any others?
More often than not they will need to allow for 1.5" diameter suppressor and many will do that. It's impossible to name a brand because everyone you mentioned have a couple that will have too small of a diameter for a suppressor to fit inside. Then there is the issue of mounts.

Troy, Samson, JP Enterprises, Noveske, Yankee Hill all do or have in the past because I have used them or know someone who has.

Once you know suppressor diameter, then you can start shopping.
300 Blackout, not just for sub-sonics.

User avatar
bangbangping
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 2612
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:34 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by bangbangping » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:11 pm

There are several suppressors that are not "compatible" with those "compatible" hand guards.

ponzer04
Silent Operator
Posts: 84
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:19 pm

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by ponzer04 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:57 pm

Spikes tactical BAR

Aero precision atlas r one

dowser
Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:54 pm

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by dowser » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:11 pm

alamo5000 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:02 pm
If you do mean something big enough ID to tuck a suppressor inside of it that is something I would never do nor recommend for anyone else to do either.
Why not? There's many examples of these out there. What's wrong with doing it?

alamo5000
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 213
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:01 pm

Re: suppressor compatible handguards?

Post by alamo5000 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:11 pm

dowser wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:11 pm
alamo5000 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:02 pm
If you do mean something big enough ID to tuck a suppressor inside of it that is something I would never do nor recommend for anyone else to do either.
Why not? There's many examples of these out there. What's wrong with doing it?
There are numerous problems with that kind of setup hence in large part why that system has fallen out of favor over the past several years.

1. The heat generated from a suppressor is a lot. One mag dump and you won't be able to hold the hand guard anywhere near the suppressor. This is definitely true of 5.56 and maybe 300BLK supers, if you shoot subs 100% all the time you might be able to get away with it, but it will still get warm especially if you do any amount of volume shooting.

2. If you use any kind of system such as Magpul's M-Lok you won't be able to mount anything forward on the hand guard because (depending on the hand guard and the depth of the seating of the suppressor) the M-Lok screws and nuts will interfere with the suppressor in the majority of the cases. Vertical grips, lights, illuminators, or pretty much anything that would go out on the end...odds are it won't work because of clearance issues.

The same rings true for hand stops, which of course means you could be much more prone to reaching out a little bit too far...which is not good.

If you use a quad rail or something like that you could probably get around that--but it would mean getting all new accessories especially if you are say already invested in M-Lok or whatever. Never played with Keymod so I can't say about that...but already we are creating issues about the system and the choices you get as far as configuration and hand guard choice.

3. You are definitely limited on the type and size and brand of suppressor you use. Some of the mounting systems simply will not fit under ANY hand guard. Also depending on future developments if you say buy a new suppressor and the mount is the same but the OD is slightly different, you have to rebuild the upper.

4. If you are in a firing situation and the can walks off the mount (even just loosens up a little bit) you're kind of stuck until things cool down. With my suppressors I can grab them near the base and snug it back up but grabbing one out on the end or middle, no way. At least not for a few minutes.

These are just a few of the issues.

Also from what I gather there is a thing called 'hoop strength'... so hand guards that have a bigger diameter inside have to give up something somewhere. To get the same hoop strength as a smaller diameter hand guard they would have to beef it up, not thin it out, which means your gun will be bigger heavier and more out of balance front to back, especially with a suppressor on it. No such thing as a free lunch when you start getting into the weeds on this.

Post Reply