Ideal lightweight scope for 16" blk

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Re: Ideal lightweight scope for 16" blk

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Dr Fumbles wrote:What makes a scope ideal for your 300blkout rifle for use above and beyond 50 yards?
What I'd like to find
1 MOA / Mil-Dot turrets with bountiful elevation & windage
illuminated
maybe 1-6x or 3-9x
lightweight (under 16 oz if possible)
After considerable research and deliberation I decided on the SWFA Classic 1-4x24 for my 300 BLK AR. http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-1-4x24-Tactical ... 78365.aspx

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(That's an LMT factory SBR lower, AAC 12.5" 300 BLK upper, and Octane 9 HD suppressor. I'll eventually want a .30 suppressor I can use with supersonics but that's not in the budget right now.)

It just arrived yesterday and I shot with it for the first time today. I was limited to 25 yards today but so far I love it. The diamond reticle is optimized for 5.56mm but I've settled on a zero that puts the center dot dead on for subsonics at 25-50 yards and supersonics at 25 and 200 yards. The top of the diamond at the center of the reticle should be about 1" high at 100 yards for supersonics and the bottom should be dead on for supers at 250 yards and subs at 75 - that gives me very quick aiming points without thinking about holdover for a much greater range of distances than I had with a red dot. Below that it's got mil hash marks and the turret adjustments are 1 .mil. Total adjustment is 55 mils, which is way more than I'd ever expect to need. Adjustment for one revolution is 5 mils which takes me out to about 175 yards for subs and 450 for supers. I'm going to mark the turret for subsonics for ranges out to 200 yards but with the rainbow trajectory of the subsonics 200 yards may be wishful thinking. I'll also take r.tenorio671's tip above and laminate a diagram of the reticle with aim points for various ranges and tape it in the rear eyepiece cover. I still need to check my ballistics charts against actual performance at the range before doing that, though. Hopefully I can make it out to do that this weekend.

The glass is very nice and 4x should be more than enough out to around 400 yards, which is about my practical limit with this cartridge anyway. Weight without the mount is 14 oz., which is about as heavy as I want to go for this little carbine. For me the weight, features, glass, and very close to true 1x for speed at close range more than make up for the limit of 4x - any range where I'd really need a 6x or more is well past the range for decent terminal ballistics at 300 BLK velocities.

The illumination is not bright enough for full daylight but that's to be expected with any scope of this type. The diamond center of the reticle is plenty to get on target fast at close range in full daylight. In lower light the diamond and center dot are very well illuminated.
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Re: Ideal lightweight scope for 16" blk

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...had a friend sell of most of his collection recently and one of the items was a .44 Mag S&W revolver that had a Leupold 1-4x on it. Made me start thinking about those as a possible optic on AR pistols.

Scoped revolvers and pistols were one of the "rages" in the 80's and 90's so there might be some decent buys out there. I'm sure the scopes will handle the recoil of a 300BLK....if they can withstand the .44 Mags and T/C's in rifle calibers then they should be G2G on a gassed AR :mrgreen:
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Re: Ideal lightweight scope for 16" blk

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A pistol scope could work. I'd question the if the eye relief would work. You'd have to mount it up all the way, also depends on how you shoulder / stance (look up Franz Albrecht, he puts the butt in arm, strange but is an excellent shot). Do you want a scout setup?

interesting article
http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/scout-rifle/

despite what they say. I don't see the problem with a scout setup on a ar platform as a scope that could be on the handguard. (maybe no drop in the stock is an issue). Some companies even make a monolithic upper so it could be mounted at any position.

combining this with the leupold 2.5 fixed ultralight
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting ... -2-5x28mm/
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting ... -2-5x20mm/

It would be an interesting gun.

After considerable research and deliberation I decided on the SWFA Classic 1-4x24 for my 300 BLK AR. http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-1-4x24-Tactical ... 78365.aspx
Thanks it seems to be everything I am looking for
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