The administrations guiding hand, again.

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The administrations guiding hand, again.

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Looks like the current administration is guiding the ATF once again to limit access to ammo. This round being armor piercing is a joke. I bet the Barnes 110gr Black Tip is more armor piercing. Got this today:

"Valued Brownells Customer,

We want you to be aware of an issue that may severely impact the availability and legality of economical and commonly-used .223/5.56 ammunition.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has recently suggested it intends to revoke the "sporting purposes" exemption for M855 ammunition, which would likely make it unlawful to possess. Of course, M855 is widely used in AR-15 rifles for recreational and competitive shooting activities.

Brownells, the NRA and other pro-Second Amendment organizations are concerned about this action as the AR-15 is the most popular rifle in the U.S., and this threatens to diminish the availability of popular ammunition. To learn about the BATFE's position, CLICK HERE.

The BATFE will take public comments on this action until March 13, 2015. We encourage you to contact the BATFE and tell them about your usage of this popular ammunition. You may leave comments at the following email address: [email protected].

*Please note, the BATFE will automatically disregard any comments containing abusive or vulgar language, so state your opinion plainly and clearly.

Additionally, we invite you to contact your Federal legislators. Find your legislator by CLICKING HERE.

Thank you for helping to keep our Second Amendment strong!

Sincerely,

Frank & Pete Brownell "
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OH Boy!!! They're at it again. You'd think they'd have bigger fish to fry then to worry about M855 ammo.
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If they can't get your guns they will take your ammo......
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Badfinger wrote:If they can't get your guns they will take your ammo......

All the more reason to reload!!!
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Badfinger wrote:If they can't get your guns they will take your ammo......
By any means legal or not.
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yep yall should have seen this coming. obama said long ago "you don't have to control the guns, just the ammunition"
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http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2560750

It’s starting.

As promised, President Obama is using executive actions to impose gun control on the nation, targeting the top-selling rifle in the country, the AR-15 style semi-automatic, with a ban on one of the most-used AR bullets by sportsmen and target shooters.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives this month revealed that it is proposing to put the ban on 5.56mm ammo on a fast track, immediately driving up the price of the bullets and prompting retailers, including the huge outdoors company Cabela’s, to urge sportsmen to urge Congress to stop the president.



Wednesday night, Rep. Bob Goodlatte, the Republican chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, stepped in with a critical letter to the bureau demanding it explain the surprise and abrupt bullet ban. The letter is shown below.

The National Rifle Association, which is working with Goodlatte to gather co-signers, told Secrets that 30 House members have already co-signed the letter and Goodlatte and the NRA are hoping to get a total of 100 fast.

"The Obama administration was unable to ban America's most popular sporting rifle through the legislative process, so now it's trying to ban commonly owned and used ammunition through regulation," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA-ILA, the group's policy and lobby shop. "The NRA and our tens of millions of supporters across the country will fight to stop President Obama's latest attack on our Second Amendment freedoms."

At issue is so-called “armor-piercing” ammunition, an exemption for those bullets mostly used for sport by AR-15 owners, and the recent popularity of pistol-style ARs that use the ammo.

The inexpensive 5.56 M885 ammo, commonly called green tips, have been exempt for years, as have higher caliber ammunition that also easily pierces the type of soft armor worn by police, because it’s mostly used by target shooters, not criminals.



But now BATFE says that since the bullets can be used in semi-automatic handguns they pose a threat to police and must be banned from production, sale and use. But, as Goodlatte noted, offered no proof. Federal agencies will still be allowed to buy the ammo.

“This round is amongst the most commonly used in the most popular rifle design in America, the AR-15. Millions upon millions of M855 rounds have been sold and used in the U.S., yet ATF has not even alleged — much less offered evidence — that even one such round has ever been fired from a handgun at a police officer,” said Goodlatte’s letter.

Even some police don’t buy the administration’s claim. “Criminals aren't going to go out and buy a $1,000 AR pistol,” Brent Ball, owner of 417 Guns in Springfield, Mo., and a 17-year veteran police officer told the Springfield News-Leader. “As a police officer I'm not worried about AR pistols because you can see them. It's the small gun in a guy's hand you can't see that kills you.”

Many see the bullet ban as an assault on the AR-15 and Obama’s back-door bid to end production and sale.

“We are concerned,” said Justin Anderson with Hyatt Gun Shop in Charlotte, N.C., one of the nation’s top sellers of AR-15 style rifles. “Frankly, we're always concerned when the government uses back-door methods to impose quasi-gun control.”

Groups like the National Shooting Sports Foundation suggest that under BATFE’s new rule, other calibers like popular deer hunting .308 bullets could be banned because they also are used in AR-15s, some of which can be turned into pistol-style guns. “This will have a detrimental effect on hunting nationwide,” said the group.

Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at [email protected].
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And... he said ‘Have a Vote on Whether What I’m Doing Is Legal…I Will Veto’ in this video interview.

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-go-ahea ... -will-veto

Apparently they can make laws up as they go completely disregarding checks and balances.

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I wish the so called Pro 2nd Amendment Republicans in Congress would get off of their collective arse and pass a "Militia Use" clause that would restore our 2nd Amendment Rights. WE, the American People are suppose to be the Militia and as such have the same access to arms and ammunition that the Military has but ever since the end of the War of Northern Aggression (the "Civil War" to all you folks up North,LOL) the Federal government has seen fit to save us from ourselves by passing more and more restrictive firearms laws.
This crap needs to end and it needs to end NOW and all the laws on the books need to be repealed so we can get our Rights back.
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And they caved on the amnesty issue. It's like a kick in the nuts. Who cares,shut down whatever has to be shut down or do anything and everything it takes to stop Obama and his chronies that think they can just do whatever they want despit the constitution,despite the laws and despite what the people want.
It doesn't take a guy in a tinfoil hat to figure out if they are trying so hard to ban guns and ammo that they have a plan after its accomplished.
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