231 would be a poor choice for supersonic blackout loads. Velocity will be low, and it most likely will not cycle the action. It would be a great choice for subsonic bolt gun loads though; like Unique or other powders in that general burn rate, it will produce much less muzzle blast than powders that will cycle a semi auto.B.Villains wrote:Has anyone used win 231 to load supersonic blackout? I have that particular pistol powder for my 9mm and was curious if I could use it for a shallow rifle cartridge like the 300 blk.
Powders for 300 Blk Out
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Re: Powders for 300 Blk Out
2400 actually works pretty well. Max velocity will be a bit slower than comparable loads with H110 or Lil'Gun (about 100 fps less in my 11" barrel), but it's pretty consistent. I've been using 17gr under a Speer 125 TNT for right at 2000 fps.entropy556 wrote:I've read a lot here. Lots of good information. I thought saw a recipe that some one used Alliant 2400. I got a good deal on a couple of pounds of 2400. I'd like to use it for supersonic in a 110 to 125 grain bullet. I'm shooting a 16" carbine length barrel.
Thanks
Jake
2400, like H110, does have more muzzle flash than Lil'Gun.
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Thanks yondering.
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Yep, but no real mods here, so it's just a free for all. I started some powder specific threads in handloading, but it doesn't see to be catching on. Damned shame as the site could be the hub of 300 BLK, just a lack of interest/effort.
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Couldn't agree more. The lack of any kind of organization in the Handloading forum makes it one notch above totally worthless. Pity. At the very least, load data should be grouped into supersonic, subsonic MOR and subsonic semi-auto.Maryland_Shooter wrote:Yep, but no real mods here, so it's just a free for all. I started some powder specific threads in handloading, but it doesn't see to be catching on. Damned shame as the site could be the hub of 300 BLK, just a lack of interest/effort.
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Well Robert agreed to annoint a moderator; I obviously am not a candidate, some others declined.Rumph wrote:Couldn't agree more. The lack of any kind of organization in the Handloading forum makes it one notch above totally worthless. Pity. At the very least, load data should be grouped into supersonic, subsonic MOR and subsonic semi-auto.Maryland_Shooter wrote:Yep, but no real mods here, so it's just a free for all. I started some powder specific threads in handloading, but it doesn't see to be catching on. Damned shame as the site could be the hub of 300 BLK, just a lack of interest/effort.
If we had a mod who enfored rules and that trash pile of a thread running 40 pages was locked, you could make a vast improvement.
Volunteers?
ETA: As I stated before, I am moving my load data on 12/1/12 if the handloading forum clusterfuck isn't resolved and posting there.
I'm not interested in being the only one posting organized, complete data.
My new site will be:
http://www.DontBlowUpYourFreakingRifleYouWingNut.com/
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Amazing how you say that because it seems everyone here is adamant that Lil'Gun is not a good powder for 300 BLK.BobinNC wrote:Hodgdon Lil'Gun yields the highest velocities at the lowest pressures with: 110gr, 125gr, 130gr, and 135gr, bullets, and is suitable for sub-sonic loads. Hodgdon On-line Reloading Center http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp gives you loads and pressures all from a 16" barrel. My rifle is a 16" DD Ambush.... IMHO, YMMV...
I mean I read it on the site, so it must be true, right?
Even funnier - I was calling around looking for A-A1680 and the guy who loads for the 300 BLK told me, try Lil'Gun - it works great.
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I've seen it as well without data, Alliant's page doesn't list a thing for the 300BLK.entropy556 wrote:I've read a lot here. Lots of good information. I thought saw a recipe that some one used Alliant 2400. I got a good deal on a couple of pounds of 2400. I'd like to use it for supersonic in a 110 to 125 grain bullet. I'm shooting a 16" carbine length barrel.
I've finally have 10" SBR stamp, pistol length, bullets, brass, TBAC stamp, and pounds of 2400.
Does anyone have recipes for teh 208AMAX and 2400 powder subs?
Thanks!
Hogan billet, Geissele SSA-E, 10" SS 300BLK McGowan, Seekins MSCR V2, NiB BCG, TBAC
Mega billet, 6.5 Grendel 18" SS McGowan, Geissele NM Hi Speed, NiB BCG, Magpul PRS, MCSR guard, TBAC
Mega billet, 6.5 Grendel 18" SS McGowan, Geissele NM Hi Speed, NiB BCG, Magpul PRS, MCSR guard, TBAC
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