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yondering wrote:
what mold is the green one on the far left from? Looks like my (really old) H&G #20 170gr, but narrower driving bands and an extra lube groove. (See my pic on the last page, the dark green gas checked bullets.)
It is an NOE 311365, it says it is 198 grains but I haven't weighed mine using wheel weights.

I will say it is the only bullet I have found that will cycle 100% in everything, AR's or bolt guns.
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Supafly,

What OAL are you using on that 311365? Looks like you're gonna cost me $100.
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I just ordered a 311365 from NOE. I have been waiting for him
to make more of that mold for well over a month. I went ahead
and ordered the 5 cavity version because it was available in the
FLAT BASE rather than the GAS CHECK version. In fact the only
flat base that was available was the 5 cavity.

Dolomite has informed me that the larger number of cavity molds
can lead to the possibility of slight variations in bullet "roundness".
So I had to decide between the FLAT BASE bullets that need to be
sized or GAS CHECK bullets that dont. Since I started coating my
bullets I have sized everything anyway.....so I opted for the 5 cavity
plain base and I will just keep on sizing them.

I have a polished .310 sizer that is working perfectly on my coated
bullets. I have been using the Hi-Tek with good success and just
powder coated my first batch tonight. I'll give them a try as well
and see how the powder coat compares to the Hi-Tek.
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Overton-AR wrote:I just ordered a 311365 from NOE. I have been waiting for him
to make more of that mold for well over a month. I went ahead
and ordered the 5 cavity version because it was available in the
FLAT BASE rather than the GAS CHECK version. In fact the only
flat base that was available was the 5 cavity.

Dolomite has informed me that the larger number of cavity molds
can lead to the possibility of slight variations in bullet "roundness".
So I had to decide between the FLAT BASE bullets that need to be
sized or GAS CHECK bullets that dont. Since I started coating my
bullets I have sized everything anyway.....so I opted for the 5 cavity
plain base and I will just keep on sizing them.

I have a polished .310 sizer that is working perfectly on my coated
bullets. I have been using the Hi-Tek with good success and just
powder coated my first batch tonight. I'll give them a try as well
and see how the powder coat compares to the Hi-Tek.

Yeah, I wouldn't get the gas check version either. I'm not comfortable
having the check below the case neck. Powder Coating anyways.
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boost wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't get the gas check version either. I'm not comfortable
having the check below the case neck. Powder Coating anyways.
No need to run a gas check if you are powder coating. And there is no side effects from running a gas check bullet without a gas check as long as it is coated.
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Dolomite_Supafly wrote:
boost wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't get the gas check version either. I'm not comfortable
having the check below the case neck. Powder Coating anyways.
No need to run a gas check if you are powder coating. And there is no side effects from running a gas check bullet without a gas check as long as it is coated.
You know I have found that to be true, except one rifle. a Lee Enfield .303, that belongs to a friend I could not get the Lee 185gr powder coated to stay on paper at 50 yds. I was getting ready to slug the barrel when I figured I would put on a gas check, and try it. All of a sudden 1 1/2 inch groups at 50 yds with 20gr of 2400. Go figure.
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Dolomite_Supafly wrote:
boost wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't get the gas check version either. I'm not comfortable
having the check below the case neck. Powder Coating anyways.
No need to run a gas check if you are powder coating. And there is no side effects from running a gas check bullet without a gas check as long as it is coated.

That may be true, but I want my "SHTF" scenario bullet
to be flat base. I hear they tear through "Zombie Brain"
with more aggression. :mrgreen:
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I couldn't get the LEE 155 (gas check version) to fly straight PC'd without a gas check. My guess would be not enough bearing surface. Longer boolits could do without a check ,PC'd. Unlike the LEE 230, the bearing are most at the tumble lube bands , adding a check to it increased accuracy. I think it was one of gds post NOE 247 vs LEE 230.
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I would guess your accuracy issues are due to inconsistent base, not bearing surface. That was my only concern with running gc style bullets without a check. I made sure all the bullets I tried had a good base before I pc'd them and I haven't had accuracy issues...
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Magnum Mike wrote:I would guess your accuracy issues are due to inconsistent base, not bearing surface. That was my only concern with running gc style bullets without a check. I made sure all the bullets I tried had a good base before I pc'd them and I haven't had accuracy issues...
You had good luck with the 155's powder coated without gas checks? I haven't. Tested in two 1:8 , and one 1:7 twists barrels.
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