Subsonic 6 ft. impact

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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by Pavsuper » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:13 pm

I appreciate everyone's assistance in this matter. I get back to you with updates as they develop.

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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by plant.one » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:47 pm

John A. wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:22 pm


Also, there is this:
https://rantnc.com/2019/02/05/ice-agent ... ing-plant/
thats not fair to lay that onto BCA. it appears that THEY were fooled by people with fraudlent docs that got past e-verify. otherwise why wouldnt they have been nailed for a HUGE fine, or even forced to close their doors, etc

if you read the article
Update (2:02 p.m.): Bear Creek Arsenal issued the following statement to the Rant regarding the arrests: “Today there were several employees of Bear Creek Arsenal who were detained by law enforcement. This is a result of an investigation conducted by Homeland Security into employment that was obtained by either ID theft or fraudulent information. Bear Creek Arsenal has cooperated with Homeland Security during this lengthy process. Homeland Security confirmed that our Human Resource Department had complied with all laws, rules, and regulations in our hiring practice.
and the article is clearly anti-homeland security anti-ice, which of course puts it right in line with bashing a firearms business too.


any business can be caught with employee's who have false documentation. so while you're free to hate on BCA, dont lay the fact that some of their employee's were running dirty with fake papers on their plate unless you can PROVE they acted in bad faith in hiring individuals they knew were illegal.
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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by John A. » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:05 pm

You're right.

But at some point, you would have to start to question things too. Or, at least I would.

How many of their employees were arrested according to the reports for having false papers?

More than 2 dozen?

Nothing unusual about that at all.
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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by dellet » Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:00 pm

Oh it's absolutely fair to Hit BCA on it's hiring practices. If 10% of your employees get hauled away by immigration, someone doing the hiring knew about it.

When other businesses in town close for a few days when the one of the biggest employers gets busted, the whole town knows whats going on.

The employer verification laws are not designed to catch illegals, they are designed to provide cover for the employers who hire them.

Kinda like buying a solvent trap or parts at a gun show.....
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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by golfindia » Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:15 pm

BCA employees probably got their fake IDs from one of the many ads posted on the 300blktalk forum :^)

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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by Pavsuper » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:25 pm

I finally found out what was causing the bullet to impact the burm so high... it was the muzzle device. The Griffin Armarment 30 SD when purchased comes with muzzle devices.

https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/ ... 0sd-k.html

unfortuntely for my new 300 blackout upper i chose to have a VG^ Gamma 300BLK

https://www.vg6precision.com/vg6-gamma-300blk

Well went out this weekend and swapped the one i had on my AR10 and guess what it worked. All tests with and without suppressor were on paper and in the same 1.5 inch group. Three different weight rounds, 168gr, 175gr, and 190gr.

I thank you all for the advice.

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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by dellet » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:14 am

Pavsuper wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:25 pm
I finally found out what was causing the bullet to impact the burm so high... it was the muzzle device. The Griffin Armarment 30 SD when purchased comes with muzzle devices.

https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/ ... 0sd-k.html

unfortuntely for my new 300 blackout upper i chose to have a VG^ Gamma 300BLK

https://www.vg6precision.com/vg6-gamma-300blk

Well went out this weekend and swapped the one i had on my AR10 and guess what it worked. All tests with and without suppressor were on paper and in the same 1.5 inch group. Three different weight rounds, 168gr, 175gr, and 190gr.

I thank you all for the advice.
I looked at the VG Gamma device. If you are installing that with the provided crush washer, that is more than likely the problem. Not the muzzle device itself.

Crush washers and suppressors are a bad mix. Rarely do they crush evenly. If it needs to be timed, use a peel washer.
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Re: Subsonic 6 ft. impact

Post by GregP42 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 pm

Pavsuper wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:25 pm
I finally found out what was causing the bullet to impact the burm so high... it was the muzzle device. The Griffin Armarment 30 SD when purchased comes with muzzle devices.

https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/ ... 0sd-k.html

unfortuntely for my new 300 blackout upper i chose to have a VG^ Gamma 300BLK

https://www.vg6precision.com/vg6-gamma-300blk

Well went out this weekend and swapped the one i had on my AR10 and guess what it worked. All tests with and without suppressor were on paper and in the same 1.5 inch group. Three different weight rounds, 168gr, 175gr, and 190gr.

I thank you all for the advice.

I wish mine was that easy, I don't have a muzzle device on mine. I even changed scope bases to see if that could be the issue. Nope, still shoots the subs much higher that supers.

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