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The Wait Is On
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:27 pm
by Gman2017
Got a Dead Air Sandman-S in jail waiting on my stamp arrival. Going on 2.5 months, hope its a fast turn around. My first one in 2015 took 5 months. It will be dedicated to a 300 blk sbr. What is a good factory sub round that would be recommended for this application?
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:36 pm
by John A.
I'll be honest, I haven't found a factory sub that I liked. But maybe one of the other guys have ????
Congrats on the can.
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:39 pm
by Flatliner
I agree, 300 and a can SCREAMS out for a guy to get into reloading...
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:35 pm
by withoutremorse42
I love Discreet Ballistics 190gr subs. Fiocchi works well in some of my barrels and American Eagle Suppressor brand has been surprisingly good
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:26 pm
by Sharkbite
Be aware that most factory subs are loaded with bullets that will not expand or do much at subsonic velocities. Punching paper, ringing steel...good to go. As a defensive round...not so good.
210gn Amax, 220gn SMK...these are the most common bullets loaded for subs in the 300blk. Neither is a good choice for HD/SD.
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:25 am
by Gman2017
During Black Friday sale I ordered 1k rds of Sellier and Bellot 200 gr fmj to give a try. Do the Remington 220 gr hpbt expand much?
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:36 pm
by SwampDog_13
Gman2017 wrote:During Black Friday sale I ordered 1k rds of Sellier and Bellot 200 gr fmj to give a try. Do the Remington 220 gr hpbt expand much?
The Remington's are not designed to expand, think of them more like the hollow point of a match bullet.
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:59 pm
by Sharkbite
The Rem 220gn sub is loaded with the 220 Sierra match king bullet. Its a target bullet, not a hunting bullet.
No expansion at full speed, much less subsonic velocities.
The same goes for the 208gn Hornady A-max. Zero expansion.
To get reliable expansion in a sub, look at Lehighs stuff
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:27 pm
by Gman2017
Sharkbite wrote:The Rem 220gn sub is loaded with the 220 Sierra match king bullet. Its a target bullet, not a hunting bullet.
No expansion at full speed, much less subsonic velocities.
The same goes for the 208gn Hornady A-max. Zero expansion.
To get reliable expansion in a sub, look at Lehighs stuff
I looked on their site...minimum twist rate is 1:8 and kinda pricey for the 194 gr maximum expansion.
Re: The Wait Is On
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:49 pm
by John A.
Yes, they are certainly proud of them.
But considering how well they work, they have a right to be. You won't find a better performing bullet for blackout subs.