The Wait Is On

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The Wait Is On

Post by Gman2017 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:27 pm

Got a Dead Air Sandman-S in jail waiting on my stamp arrival. Going on 2.5 months, hope its a fast turn around. My first one in 2015 took 5 months. It will be dedicated to a 300 blk sbr. What is a good factory sub round that would be recommended for this application?

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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by John A. » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:36 pm

I'll be honest, I haven't found a factory sub that I liked. But maybe one of the other guys have ????

Congrats on the can.
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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by Flatliner » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:39 pm

I agree, 300 and a can SCREAMS out for a guy to get into reloading...

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Post by withoutremorse42 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:35 pm

I love Discreet Ballistics 190gr subs. Fiocchi works well in some of my barrels and American Eagle Suppressor brand has been surprisingly good
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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by Sharkbite » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:26 pm

Be aware that most factory subs are loaded with bullets that will not expand or do much at subsonic velocities. Punching paper, ringing steel...good to go. As a defensive round...not so good.

210gn Amax, 220gn SMK...these are the most common bullets loaded for subs in the 300blk. Neither is a good choice for HD/SD.

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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by Gman2017 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:25 am

During Black Friday sale I ordered 1k rds of Sellier and Bellot 200 gr fmj to give a try. Do the Remington 220 gr hpbt expand much?

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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by SwampDog_13 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:36 pm

Gman2017 wrote:During Black Friday sale I ordered 1k rds of Sellier and Bellot 200 gr fmj to give a try. Do the Remington 220 gr hpbt expand much?
The Remington's are not designed to expand, think of them more like the hollow point of a match bullet.

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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by Sharkbite » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:59 pm

The Rem 220gn sub is loaded with the 220 Sierra match king bullet. Its a target bullet, not a hunting bullet.

No expansion at full speed, much less subsonic velocities.

The same goes for the 208gn Hornady A-max. Zero expansion.

To get reliable expansion in a sub, look at Lehighs stuff

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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by Gman2017 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:27 pm

Sharkbite wrote:The Rem 220gn sub is loaded with the 220 Sierra match king bullet. Its a target bullet, not a hunting bullet.

No expansion at full speed, much less subsonic velocities.

The same goes for the 208gn Hornady A-max. Zero expansion.

To get reliable expansion in a sub, look at Lehighs stuff


I looked on their site...minimum twist rate is 1:8 and kinda pricey for the 194 gr maximum expansion.

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Re: The Wait Is On

Post by John A. » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:49 pm

Yes, they are certainly proud of them.

But considering how well they work, they have a right to be. You won't find a better performing bullet for blackout subs.
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