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how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:17 pm
by joe300
I just sent in a form 4 for a suppressor. I totally forgot to put in the trust paper work in the envelope. so my question is for the folks that have possible been in my situation or the folks that my know the answer to my questions. am I just better off to wait until I here something form the ATf? or should I try to head this off sooner? also, I have submitted a form 4 to the ATF earlier this year with the trust paper work. maybe a shot In the dark but they couldn't use that paperwork per chance? well again thanks for any help on this situation.

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:47 pm
by Sithlord
I'd call NFA branch and ask for their recommendation.

I would mail off another submission and include the trust (and another check for $200). Maybe even put in a hold for the previous check with your bank.

I doubt that the ATF would reuse trust documents from a previous submission. And even if they would, they wouldn't do it without you informing them of the issue.

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:13 pm
by joe300
Sithlord wrote:I'd call NFA branch and ask for their recommendation.

I would mail off another submission and include the trust (and another check for $200). Maybe even put in a hold for the previous check with your bank.

I doubt that the ATF would reuse trust documents from a previous submission. And even if they would, they wouldn't do it without you informing them of the issue.

Thanks for the input. I emailed them and see if I hear back from them. If not I will give them a call. Thanks again.

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:24 pm
by r.tenorio671
joe300 wrote:
Sithlord wrote:I'd call NFA branch and ask for their recommendation.

I would mail off another submission and include the trust (and another check for $200). Maybe even put in a hold for the previous check with your bank.

I doubt that the ATF would reuse trust documents from a previous submission. And even if they would, they wouldn't do it without you informing them of the issue.

Thanks for the input. I emailed them and see if I hear back from them. If not I will give them a call. Thanks again.
...it's a government agency, I'd recommend calling them and once they answer, log the date, time and name of individual you speak to as well as their department, especially if you experience a lot of call transfers....

...emails have a tendency to end up in the "bit bucket", disappearing into the realms of cyberspace and "never received land"... :roll:

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:01 am
by batman4706
Here is the email for a supervisor who has helped a lot of people, try him.

[email protected].

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:20 am
by joe300
Thanks again for all the advice. If I don't get a email response I will try calling them. Thanks again.

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:52 am
by joe300
well just got off the phone with a lady at the nfa branch. not good. she said the only hopes of heading this off before a complete rejection and paperwork sent back is to try and call in about 6 weeks and see if its in the system and possible catch it before a rejection and get them the trust paperwork. so I will try this and hopefully it works. she also reminded me that if its rejected and then I have to resubmit after july then there is more involved with the new policies coming into play which I'm aware of and would suck due to more paperwork. well any way she was nice and helpful just gave me answers I didn't really want to hear, but knew were coming. thanks again for all you advice guys.

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:56 pm
by ProdigalSun
Thanks. Sounds like they have you shooting in the dark.

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:45 pm
by joe300
so here is a quick update. one of the people I emailed at the atf replied back. she said and I quote, email me your trust and when you application is put in it will be flagged to come see her. she has a copy of the trust and will then hand it to the person working on my application and presto. we hope. we will see they just got payment on the 6th so it will be awhile before we see if this plays out the way she says. but I did have multiple email exchanges with her and she did seem very helpful. wish me luck.

Re: how bad did i screw myself

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:05 am
by dellet
joe300 wrote:so here is a quick update. one of the people I emailed at the atf replied back. she said and I quote, email me your trust and when you application is put in it will be flagged to come see her. she has a copy of the trust and will then hand it to the person working on my application and presto. we hope. we will see they just got payment on the 6th so it will be awhile before we see if this plays out the way she says. but I did have multiple email exchanges with her and she did seem very helpful. wish me luck.
All agents I have talked to have been very helpful. Calls have always been returned, generally within a day.

Make sure you save the email exchange, Since you mailed in the Form 4, did you possibly make a copy of it? If you did it would be worth including that and a copy of the check with your trust when you send it.

Good luck, for the most part I have found the folks there really do want to keep people out of trouble, and will help any way they can.