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Anyone know of a lawyer in Oregon that will do them? Has anyone found a lawyer to do it for under $300? That sucks that it's $300 plus the additional $200 to the ATF.

I've got a can and just sent off my Form 1 for an SBR. Can those be added to a trust if I make one at a later date? For free? Probably not free.

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If I carry a gun you can not force me to do something, the playing field is equal. You are left with reason. Removing force from the equation is the definition of civilized interaction.

I hear ya. but if done right by yourself it's money saved. Everything is so automated these days, they probably use the same program we would use

it's like taxes. I guess if you are fishy and afraid you might be audited, best to get an accountant do it.

I do my own taxes because I don't do anything that would raise an eyebrow, and if they do, I've used an application that automates the process like most other people.

I might take my chances with the quicken willmaker, It's a fully legal way of doing it.

The differences is that if you mess up your taxes then you pay some fines and past due taxes. If you end up with an invalid trust (which the ATF is supposed to verify before approving your stamp) or some other mess up and are in possession of an NFA item then the consequences are thousands of dollars in fines and years in prison.

I bought Quicken Willmaker and made the trust myself but I read through it and I just didn't feel satisfied with the results. Additionally, I wanted to include my wife and father on the trust. I also have kids so I needed to make sure there were provisions for them not being able to inherit the items until they are legally allowed to own them, etc.

The folks at TexasLawShield.com put together my trust in a day and helped me to make sure I had everything in order for my applications, my trust, and any other concerns I had. Like you, I had a hard time paying the money for it, but I'm glad that I went ahead with the trust service.

Again, you will probably be fine doing it with Willmaker, but I just wanted to share my experience if it helps at all.

I hear ya...

Thanks bud!

teasel, like the man said.... you only need to engrave if you are "building" the sbr. otherwise if you are buying a new sbr from a dealer, you will not need to engrave it. just put in in your trust.

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a wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer Bruce Lee

Remember you can always have a professional re do your Willmaker trust if you want later. If you don't have the $ and your trust requirements are simple start with that... later if things change ..divorce etc. Or if you want the make changes outside of what the SW can do then get a Trust lawyer to amend it to fit your needs. At least you can get a start for cheep.

I may do this with mine. But for now its a canned trust.

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I posted this before. I used it in several NFA items and know of at least 30 people did as well.

I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, all I am saying is that I used it and it worked for me. No warranty, express or implied.

http://marylandshooter.com/ar15/trust/trust.asp

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When I go to bed as a law abiding citizen and wake a felon, by nothing more than the stroke of the legislative pen, tyranny has arrived.

good to post that, it might help somebody.

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a wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer Bruce Lee

I've posted that thing all over the internet. Posted at ARFCOM Class III General and thread locked at my request.

Everybody wants to argue over Trusts.

It worked for me.

Naturally all the lawyers charging $600 sent their shills to bash my free contribution, ergo, I asked it be locked. Practicing law without a license, etc, etc. They can all argue in another thread.

If you all tack threads or do the stickies here, that's an option.

It is what it is, no more, no less. Use it or don't - I make nothing both ways. I created it because attys were raping people at $600. For $300, I'd have let them do mine, $200 is better, $250 is fair, but free, well it's pretty hard to beat free.

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When I go to bed as a law abiding citizen and wake a felon, by nothing more than the stroke of the legislative pen, tyranny has arrived.

WTF????

http://marylandshooter.com/

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