golfindia wrote: John A. wrote:
Because local/state game warden has zero authority to enforce federal NFA laws.
If you think that an atf agent is the only person that can arrest someone for a firearm violation, I'm not sure what to say, other than that is demonstrably false.
And you don't have to be an ATF agent to run a serial number either.
Sheesh, where do you guys live? Cananda? California?
NO. Unless you just committed a crime, a local cop doesn't havr probable cause to arrest you for a firearm violation. Unless they are detaining you, just keep walking. Who are your game wardens calling to "run your serial numbers"? There is no 4473 database. That's all paper. A game warden can't run around calling ATF on people he passes in the woods.... Ridiculous.
What if I don't have a serial number? Sounds like some states are in serious need some gun law reforms. Or more people to stand up tp overreaching local LEOs.
I live in one of the best 2A states in the country.
The game wardens in my state are state employees. Their radios are tuned to the same dispatch as the state police. Typically, they just check the national stolen gun database to see if there is a hit on it. Which 911 dispatcher does that for them if they don't have a computer in their vehicle that they can do that themselves.
As for 4473 database, ummm, yes there is. It's not computerized, but it exists. It's called the National Licensing Center and it's located in Atlanta, GA.
It's where FFL's send their paperwork when they go out of business. They ran out of room to store them there and have rented shipping containers to house them. Further, ATF can contact the manufacturer, who points them to a distributor, who points them to an FFl, who points them to who they sold the gun. Granted after the first FFL sale is often when the trail gets cold if they have reason to believe that the gun was used in a crime, but we're getting way off track of how sbr's are registered.
SBR's are registered by their serial number. Which is in the NFA registry. It matters not what configuration the gun is in. If it's a registered SBR, the serial number is going to be, well, registered. It matters not whether it has a 24 inch barrel, a 1 inch barrel, or no barrel. Or a stock or no stock. The serial number of a registered sbr is what exempts the gun.
ATF is the one who says you are required to provide a copy of your TAX forms to your local sheriffs office. They even put a big cleo copy stamp right on the bottom of their copy now.
When those totally ignorant of firearms make laws, you end up with totally ignorant firearm laws.