Form 4 Trust +14 Months

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Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by BulletFactory » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:27 am

WTH. Why is it, that my rights can be denied for over 14 months, with no accountability? Why is is that I am under a 10 year threat for exercising my rights, when those who swore not to infringe upon those rights are unaccountable for their crimes? People need to start doing time, and this can stop.

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Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.

The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by BulletFactory » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am

Dont come back with some judges decision. That is NOT government by a constitutional republic, it's just judicial activism, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal.

BTW, this applies to anyone who attempts to enforce any concealed pistol license requirement.

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by hardcase » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:26 pm

You didn't say which state. It seems states and localities, especially under the 9th circuit, can make up Constitutional Amendments by interpreting laws as they want.

Thankfully I live in relatively gun friendly NC.

If I were you, I 'd vote with my feet if I lived there.

If you are waiting on an NFA item, I'd call the ATF and ask them about the delay.

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by BulletFactory » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:59 am

Michigan. I've called the ATF. Twice. If I bother them, they will use it as an excuse to deny me. The only reason the 9th Circuit Court exists, is because the Militia, the 3%ers and the police have failed to remove them. Every one of them should be drug into the street with violence and shot with no trial. They dont care about the way our courts are supposed to work, so what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by Sithlord » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:14 pm

BulletFactory wrote:Michigan. I've called the ATF. Twice. If I bother them, they will use it as an excuse to deny me. The only reason the 9th Circuit Court exists, is because the Militia, the 3%ers and the police have failed to remove them. Every one of them should be drug into the street with violence and shot with no trial. They dont care about the way our courts are supposed to work, so what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
That's not been my experience in dealing with the NFA Branch.

I suggest that you call them, be polite, explain that you submitted a Form 4 over 14 months ago, and you would like to know where it is in the process. If you would prefer email, [email protected] is generally very responsive.

Remember, be polite. You will only piss them off otherwise, and then it will be delayed... Have your serial number and Trust Name ready....

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by hardcase » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:11 pm

Probably best to tone down a bit about shooting a Federal Judge too, at least in print on an open forum.

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by BulletFactory » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:52 pm

Thanks.

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by BulletFactory » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:54 pm

hardcase wrote:Probably best to tone down a bit about shooting a Federal Judge too, at least in print on an open forum.
Oaths have been sworn by law enforcement officers to protect the nation from "domestic enemies" such as that panel of judges. I'm not speaking of vigilante anything.

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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by plant.one » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:40 am

since its a form4 - i would contact you dealer and have them submit an inquiry. your item is clogging up space in their safe - i'm sure they'll be happy to help be a mediator between you and the BATFE to help clear that spot off their shelves so they can fill it with another inventory item.

i would suggest that would defiantly lessen the risk of your frustration bubbling over and causing a further delay due to a misunderstanding of what your frustration is caused by.
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Re: Form 4 Trust +14 Months

Post by BulletFactory » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:03 am

I just realized, it's a Form 1. I had 4 and 1 mixed up, how embarrassing. Once plant.one made his post, I put it together.

Sithlord, I did send the gentleman an email. It was brief, and polite.

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