There comes a point where words and time are wasted. This thread has gone well beyond that. I am not sure it has I don’t know if you are intentionally missing the points or just can’t grasp them. you have chosen to not grasp the goal of the OP
That is complete and utter bullshit. I went to great lengths to find out what exactly you were looking for in a suppressed, SBR package. You asked for a “purpose” built package, but simply refuse to define the purpose. In short, you mocked my attempt to help you.
I mentioned the gas port that Noveske uses as something to look for in a purpose built suppressed SBR. Noveske does sell complete SBR’s and they are designed to be shot suppressedwhich?. They were not on your list of potentials, so I did not address them. literal first line of the OP " So, probing around- I own a Spike's Tactical Compressor and am curious about other combo packages out there. " very clearly I state that I am curious about ANY other combo out there! So who isn't reading who? Also I have edited the OP to reflect the Noveske. Also you could very easily use the Internet which you are on to ad links none of the Noveske complete guns with short barrels carry the disclaimer of will not fire without can that is only on the barrels WHICH I ADMITTED MY IGNORANCE TOO.
your original criteria was a rifle/suppressor combination, one stop shopping, Noveske does not offer that, nor do many other manufacturers of high quality products. That’s like saying you want the best meal in town, but will only eat from a bowl.
I mentioned the controls of the compressor because most peoples intended purpose of a suppressed SBR is ease of use under pressure. Making things like a mag release harder to access is counter productive. mag release harder to access? The ambi side adds a whole new side to drop the mag from and the normal side is no harder to operate than any other AR (it is perhaps a bit taller of a shroud on tHE sIDE that DosNt get touched by the person using the gun)
As the pictures I posted show, one side is completely recessed, the other guarded. That’s a no go for me and does nothing to enhance the suitability to shoot suppressed, your original question.
Spikes did a lot counter productive costly adds to the compressor that have absolutely no benefit. Maybe some of those things have changed over time and I’m not aware.
They went to great lengths to flute the barrel and add cooling gizmos to the gas system to enhance cooling. Then they covered it all up with a heat shield between the barrel and handgaurd that will keep the heat trapped. and allow you to hold the rifle for longer... that was the trade off for the heat shield
allowing the barrel to heat more, so you can hold it longer, and increase the chances of a malfunction, is not an option I would be interested in.
They started with an M16 bolt carrier and lightened it to the point it became unreliable with supers, causing them to need an H3 buffer. The operating system is under weight and over gassed. That’s a bad combination. so they made the buffer bcg combo the same weight overall as standard bcg and h2?? Now there was a reason for that too according to spikes it is to allow the end user to TUNE the gun as they see fit without messing with the gas block. You can add weight by using a full bcg or take weight with a buffer
No different than any other AR out there as far as weight adjustment. Not only will drilling holes in a carrier allow it to dissipate heat faster, it will also heat up faster. In an enclosed system, like a carrier in an upper, that heat will be transferred into the upper receiver. Any benefit is arguable.
The only thing they did that was not tacticool and showed some sort of benefit to a dedicated suppressed SBR, was add capacity to the suppressor without length, by using an over barrel design. This saved a couple inches in length, while providing incredibly average or below reduction in decibels and no savings in weight, probably even increasing it.I knocked the compressor on overall weight and as being just at hearing safe myself originally
The reason I don’t own a Spikes compressor is it does not fit my purpose of using a suppressed SBR. The best thing about it from the specs I have seen is the buffer and even that is too heavy for anything chambered in 300 Blackout that is properly configured.. how is it too heavy if it runs flawless with any factory ammo? The buffing system is too heavy?? So they left the reciprocating mass the same and it is too heavy?
Find me an actual weight of the operating system, then we can compare. While your at please provide the test results at -40 degrees, 20,000 feet, 120 degrees and full of sand. If they wanted to increase suppressed performance, they could have simply dialed back the gas. Less heat, less recoil, less gas.
I talk so much about the Spike's because that is what I own and know. Also it really seem to hit a whole lot of people in the I HAVE to talk trash buttons
Not talking trash, simply stating where the product missed the mark for me to consider it. If it works fine for your purpose, which seems to be more about appearance, bells and whistles and paid magazine reviews, you made a great choice.
From Noveske faq page. This applies both to their barrels sold over the counter, and their rifles, which oddly enough, use their barrels.
What is 300BLK?
The Noveske 300 AAC BLACKOUT is designed to run optimally firing both subsonic suppressed and supersonic unsuppressed. This barrel is tuned to lock back on the last round using subsonic 220 and 208 grain ammunition with a sound suppressor. The firearm may not lock back with subsonic 220 and 208 grain ammunition without a sound suppressor. Also, the subsonic 300 BLK ammunition is more susceptible to a malfunction due to carbon fouling and adverse conditions than supersonic ammunition. The barrel is tuned to operate correctly with the back pressure provided by the AAC 762-SDN-6 using an H2 buffer, or a Surefire 762K suppressor and an H buffer. In the development of this barrel, we found evidence that the suppressor may require a symmetrical baffle stack as found in the AAC Cyclone K, 762-SDN6, and Surefire 762K suppressor. Suppressors which cause off axis turbulence, such as those with K type baffles, may cause baffle strikes and/or point of impact shift, and may damage your suppressor. Noveske Rifleworks LLC will not be responsible for damage or injury under ANY circumstances. Consult you suppressor manufacturer to determine if your suppressor is suitable for this application.
I would say that is a pretty narrow window, of a purpose built product.