Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by plant.one » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:13 pm

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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by hardcase » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:24 pm

The picture of the Reformation stock I saw was a Magpul SL stock. https://cdn0-thetruthaboutguns-com.cdn. ... 70x367.jpg

Well shucks. Picture will open with my Iphone but not my Windows based desktop.

Try this. https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2018/01 ... tax-stamp/

Creating quite a stir, this rifle or whatever it is :P .

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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by Scratch » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:15 pm

For those that haven't heard yet, it looks like the wait is over...

It sounds like it has straight cut lands and grooves, therefore not rifling, therefore not a rifle. Designed for less than 100 yards, and will most likely be in 300BLK.

http://www.recoilweb.com/franklin-armor ... 33042.html

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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by emmagee1917 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:55 pm

I don't see this lasting very long . Straight rifling is still a rifled bore . The first use of rifling was straight grooves intended as a space for black powder residue to go so as to make reloading easier and more shots between cleaning . The groves were then cut on a twist so as to increase the groove length and give more space for the fouling to go , ergo , even more shots between cleaning . Found out that the gun shot more accurate with this twisting , so it was kept . BATF dropped the ball on this ruling , you can bet that it'll change .
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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by Scratch » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:10 pm

Here's a video from range day:
https://youtu.be/RfTt33S8RK8

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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by certifiable » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:46 pm

2 grand for a 4-5 MOA 50 yrd gun seems like a waste of money to me.

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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by hardcase » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:55 pm

certifiable wrote:2 grand for a 4-5 MOA 50 yrd gun seems like a waste of money to me.
Agree

Only market I see for this would be gang/bangers in LA. Look for California and New Jersey to make up a rule using this as an excuse to come down on all ARs.

From my limted expertise 4 inch groups at 50 yards is not 4 moa (minute of angle). The video says it starts keyholing after 50 yards.

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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by Dr.Phil » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:06 pm

300 BLK will be released first and they are developing specialty ammo to stabilize the 0:0 twist.

Best of luck to them.
I'm all about innovation and am not a fan of the NFA, but I would much rather have a proper SBR than this or even a braced pistol.
The optics of the NFA work a rounds only give ammunition to the anti-gun crowd.
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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by certifiable » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:19 pm

hardcase wrote:
certifiable wrote:2 grand for a 4-5 MOA 50 yrd gun seems like a waste of money to me.
Agree

Only market I see for this would be gang/bangers in LA. Look for California and New Jersey to make up a rule using this as an excuse to come down on all ARs.

From my limted expertise 4 inch groups at 50 yards is not 4 moa (minute of angle). The video says it starts keyholing after 50 yards.
I was being generous, giving FA the benefit of the doubt since the Franklin rep did say 4-5 MOA. whereas the interviewer said 4"-5"
Irregardless of whether its 4"-5" or 4-5 MOA at 50 yards, its a tomato stake as far as I'm concerned
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Re: Franklin Armory 11.5 in barrel AR 15, no stamp??

Post by certifiable » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:21 pm

Dr.Phil wrote: I would much rather have a proper SBR than this or even a braced pistol.
My thoughts as well
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