Bullet moving in the case when chambering

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Bullet moving in the case when chambering

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I just noticed that the bullets are moving forward in the case when chambering in my ar. I think this is what my problem has been. I just ordered a RCBS AR die set with the taper crimp die. I think the problems will stop.
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Re: Bullet moving in the case when chambering

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A bent decapping pin can cause that.
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the crimp die that most of us are using is the Lee Factory Crimp Die.

they're very easy to setup and 'normalize' your neck tension with.
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plant.one wrote:the crimp die that most of us are using is the Lee Factory Crimp Die.

they're very easy to setup and 'normalize' your neck tension with.
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Lee crimp die works well in my Dillon 550B as well.
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Fourth Lee FCD, it'll even create a little cannelure if your bullet doesn't have one. I don't mind smooshing the Palmetto 203s, they're just for fun.
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Re: Bullet moving in the case when chambering

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Does the FCD work better than the RCBS taper crimp AR die?
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Bgd wrote:Does the FCD work better than the RCBS taper crimp AR die?
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The FCD is a collet crimper. It crushes the sides of the case into the bullet.

The Taper crimp is just that, a tapered area that reduces diameter so the mouth of the case is pressed int the bullet.

I am NO fan of the FCD. To me its the answer to a unasked question. Every set of dies out there has all the crimping one will need. Only real reason I see for a second crimping die is when using a progressive press, where (and you should always) crimp in a separate stage.

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cwlongshot wrote:The FCD is a collet crimper. It crushes the sides of the case into the bullet.

The Taper crimp is just that, a tapered area that reduces diameter so the mouth of the case is pressed int the bullet.

I am NO fan of the FCD. To me its the answer to a unasked question. Every set of dies out there has all the crimping one will need. Only real reason I see for a second crimping die is when using a progressive press, where (and you should always) crimp in a separate stage.

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This is completely backwards, or requires some explanation in regards to word choice.

On a collet die like the Lee FCD, the neck enters the collet, which is then pressed against the neck of the cartridge. This is a true pressing action which will only crush the bullet if it is not adjusted correctly. The idea is uniform tension the length of the neck.

A taper crimp is no different than a bullet sizing die in that you are forcing a larger diameter through a smaller hole that is tapered. This is actually more of a crush than a press and can still be over done. Without a cannelure, and/or fairly exact trim lengths and brass thickness, tension will vary widely.

If your neck tension is set correctly by adjusting sizing ball diameter, then the need for crimping becomes a choice. Smoothing out a bell is a different action all together.

I polish the sizing ball to .305"-.306" and have no problems with 175 grain bullets, on compressed loads moving when chambering. Always with ES in the low to mid teens with single digit SD.

If I were the OP, diameter of the sizer would be the first thing I would check.
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