it still sucks . I bought 100 rounds to break in my mini-14 blackout and quit after about 10 rounds . I thought the rifle had issues . so I shot some out of my 8.5 inch pistol build and I swear I saw crap flying down range like when your shooting blackpowder . it woul barely function the gun and I then had 2 guns to clean . nasty stuff . I thought about shooting them out of my bolt gun but I couldnt imagine how nasty it would be after 80 rounds .