Agreed. The oddity to me is that there are so many people who demand nothing less than battle rifle power for their urban home, and say even intermediate power rifle rounds or shotguns are insufficient, but then also brag about the virtues of their magnum pistol, or 1911.dellet wrote:LeoC4 wrote:My OP explained that I'm shifting to the 300 Blk AR Pistol since I can mount a laser/light and run a 30 rnd magazine. With my 1911, I'd have juggle a separate light and carry an extra 1911 magazine (or two)...difficult in the middle of the night in PJs (or less).plant.one wrote:if you want a 45 acp energy/terminal balistics with a fancy bullet, get a 45 acp and load it up with a fancy bullet and use that.
Funniest thing with arguments like this is, that people are trying to pick a side when the cold hard truth is you don't need to. You can have both.
If you have an AR in 300 Blackout and can't load it with 30 random rounds, both sub and super, then do a mag dump and keep all 30 rounds in a 10" circle at 40 feet without a feeding failure, there's something wrong with you, the AR, or both.
If you have an intruder bad ass enough that he advances into gun fire coming from a highly defensible position, you have more problems than choosing sub or super.
Let's face it, a 'pistol' format AR in 300 BO, blows all the magnums out of the water with SS, and with carefully chosen SS or subs, you can have a large quantity of easily aimed rounds on tap, that are very adequate to the task of stopping a threat inside a house without providing excessive threat to neighbors, or kids in unknown parts of the house. All in a compact package which really does limit disorienting concussion, and lifetime hearing loss. There's no perfect solution, but this really ain't a bad one. Just about any of the good subsonic 300 BO offerings are substantial gains in terms of terminal ballistics over any practical defensive pistol round, and your hit probability for a vital is multiplied by lets say 10... That part shouldn't be ignored.
You can pick something suitable to probable threat scenarios in either SS or Sub flavor, without compromising too much for even the improbable scenarios. If somehow I am attacked by a person at 200 yards who is both a real threat to me, and who fails to instantly kill me, I have pretty much as good a chance of getting him first with subs as I would an AR in 556. In a closed house at ranges more like 20' I think I would prefer the compact gun with less blast.
You aren't wrong to choose differently, but let's not pretend that's a wrong choice either.
FWIW, my preferred choice is 22 pellets of #4 buck at about 1400 FPS, in a wad that gives a tight pattern, out of a reliable box fed shotgun. an AR with varmint bullets, or a 300 BO with whatever limits over penetration are both good next best things that I have on hand too.