So...bad rifle or just bad ammo (RARR)?
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:56 pm
Hey all,
I’m probably answering my own question, but given the history of the RARR with a lot of them needing to be sent back to Ruger with bad bolts or other issues I just wanted to get your opinions. Yes, I am OCD.
In my RARR 300blk rifle (Serial # range 693-87XXX) that I have had since December of 2015 (a little over a year now), I’ve had 5 failures-to-fire in 198 rounds total. (12 or so different batches of factory, re-manufactured and hand-loaded ammo) One of those fired the second time I tried it so I saved the other 4 rounds. 2 of them were from one batch of re-manufactured ammo (Ozark 147 gr fmj) and 2 of them were from another batch of re-manufactured ammo (Freedom 110 gr Vmax). So far all of my hand-loads and all other factory ammo have fired perfectly from the rifle. I just bought a Sheridan gauge (received it TODAY in fact!) to see if the 4 saved rounds were out of spec before I blame the rifle and send it back to Ruger. When dropped into the Sheridan gauge all 4 of them are BELOW the “Min Brass Dimension” (lowest) shelf of the gauge. They are .014, .013, .013 and .016 below the shelf. I’ve dropped a few other unfired rounds from those same batches into the Sheridan gauge and so far the ones I’ve tried are all in spec.(I’ve only tried a dozen or so from each batch so far).
I contacted Ruger a few weeks back before I ordered the gauge telling them of the misfire issue and they authorized a return and wanted to see the whole rifle (not just the bolt). That is when I decided to get a Sheridan gauge to see if the AMMO was out of spec…which it clearly is. I was ok sending them the bolt...but I really didn't want to send them the whole rifle.
My question is: Would you still send the rifle back to Ruger at this point after getting the results I did with the new Sheridan gauge, or would you leave well enough alone? I’m always a little bit leary of sending my rifle(s) anywhere at all and now that I’ve sort of confirmed that the rounds are in fact out of spec that didn’t fire…I’m thinking maybe there is nothing wrong with my rifle at all. Other than the misfires with the out of spec ammo…the rifle is perfect. It’s extremely accurate. I guess my question really is...are the rounds I measured out of spec enough to cause a fail to fire or is the rifle still a little suspect?
Opinions?
Thanks in advance!
Randy
I’m probably answering my own question, but given the history of the RARR with a lot of them needing to be sent back to Ruger with bad bolts or other issues I just wanted to get your opinions. Yes, I am OCD.
In my RARR 300blk rifle (Serial # range 693-87XXX) that I have had since December of 2015 (a little over a year now), I’ve had 5 failures-to-fire in 198 rounds total. (12 or so different batches of factory, re-manufactured and hand-loaded ammo) One of those fired the second time I tried it so I saved the other 4 rounds. 2 of them were from one batch of re-manufactured ammo (Ozark 147 gr fmj) and 2 of them were from another batch of re-manufactured ammo (Freedom 110 gr Vmax). So far all of my hand-loads and all other factory ammo have fired perfectly from the rifle. I just bought a Sheridan gauge (received it TODAY in fact!) to see if the 4 saved rounds were out of spec before I blame the rifle and send it back to Ruger. When dropped into the Sheridan gauge all 4 of them are BELOW the “Min Brass Dimension” (lowest) shelf of the gauge. They are .014, .013, .013 and .016 below the shelf. I’ve dropped a few other unfired rounds from those same batches into the Sheridan gauge and so far the ones I’ve tried are all in spec.(I’ve only tried a dozen or so from each batch so far).
I contacted Ruger a few weeks back before I ordered the gauge telling them of the misfire issue and they authorized a return and wanted to see the whole rifle (not just the bolt). That is when I decided to get a Sheridan gauge to see if the AMMO was out of spec…which it clearly is. I was ok sending them the bolt...but I really didn't want to send them the whole rifle.
My question is: Would you still send the rifle back to Ruger at this point after getting the results I did with the new Sheridan gauge, or would you leave well enough alone? I’m always a little bit leary of sending my rifle(s) anywhere at all and now that I’ve sort of confirmed that the rounds are in fact out of spec that didn’t fire…I’m thinking maybe there is nothing wrong with my rifle at all. Other than the misfires with the out of spec ammo…the rifle is perfect. It’s extremely accurate. I guess my question really is...are the rounds I measured out of spec enough to cause a fail to fire or is the rifle still a little suspect?
Opinions?
Thanks in advance!
Randy