Walkers Bay wrote:John A. wrote:cwlongshot wrote: So making the best of whats there is whats called for. like gunsmiths of old. Improving a guns trigger is becoming a lost art.
Yes it is.
Too many drop in parts available from multiple sources where people can run up their credit cards with near instant gratification with no experience necessary.
Agreed. Yes some people have a tendency to over do things or get outside of their ability but then nobody ever learnt by getting everything right the first time.
As long as the newbie takes their firearm somewhere safe to test I can't see why a mistake isn't anything but a learning opportunity
I've done about 3or 4 ruger 10/22 triggers a few AR's and my M&P 9mm.
unfortunately under US federal law, even if your modifications unintentionally allow your trigger group to run away on you and double, triple, or even go mag dump on you, you're still in violation of federal law for manufacturing and/or posession of an unlicensed a machine gun - which translates to a federal felony and a permanent loss of all firearms rights upon conviction.
and with the way an AR trigger is made, with just a thin surface hardening on the contact surfaces - if you accidently stone/sand that hardened surface off, and then your trigger group can wear over time and one day without warning start acting up as the geometry changes due to the wear.
end result, if it happens at a public range and some authority figure isnt having a good day - you could easily be in a whole mess of legal trouble. So there's more risk involved than just a learning curve, unfortunatly.
done correctly, its a safe mod to do, but there's a very fine line between ok and oops. so its something that needs to be approached VERY VERY VERY Carefully - especially by the inexpierenced.
i have an AR trigger group thats been done by Bill Springfield (a "professional" smith) that i wont use anymore because its had a similar process done to it. google bill springfield trigger job failure. he's hit or miss - at best - with his results, and i'm just not willing to risk it. i never had a problem with it (it came in a used gun i bought) but once i found out about the risk, with the possible repercussions of something going south at an inopportune moment ... its not worth it to me when a trigger that hasnt been monkey'ed with that way by someone with his sketchy reputation is so relatively cheap compared to a lawyer. that lower now sports a timney that i got a good deal on used. said modified trigger resides in a bag, properly labeled, in my spare parts bin - unable to even be sold for risk of putting someone else in a bad spot.