Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

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Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by harrishmasher » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:35 pm

What is the consensus here on best Subsonic ammo for defensive purposes? How does Hornady 208 Grain AMAX rate? I know about the Lehigh rounds, just a little too exotic and expensive for me. I can't seem to find any ballistic gel tests on subsonics. I know that move to slow to reliably expand. Any other rounds other than Lehigh that do?

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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by jwb47 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:35 pm

outlaw state bullets are suppose to expand at sub sonic velocity . they are not cheap and I dont know of any self defense ammo that is cheap. I have some I keep for deer hunting .

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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by ohl_san » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:04 pm

Does a 200+ grain bullet have to expand to do damage in a defensive situation?

I think not, I would look for something accurate. 200+ grains at 900-1000 fps will do the job.
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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by 300Blk » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:15 pm

I would not use existing subsonic for defense, but if you want to, use the most reliable. Probably Remington 220.

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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by harrishmasher » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:33 pm

300Blk wrote:I would not use existing subsonic for defense, but if you want to, use the most reliable. Probably Remington 220.
What about the Hornady 208 gr loading? The ones I bought actually say 300 Blackout on the box, not 300 Whisper. I persoanlly don;t know much about the red tipped AMAX bullet it is loaded with.

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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by martineta » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:41 pm

I reload and have a pile of outlaw state bullets. They expand at subsonic and feed well in my AR. All that said, for home defense I would be grabbing my benelli 8 shot extended magazine loaded to the brim with 00 Buckshot.
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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by Wo0dzm3n » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:05 pm

harrishmasher wrote:
300Blk wrote:I would not use existing subsonic for defense, but if you want to, use the most reliable. Probably Remington 220.
What about the Hornady 208 gr loading? The ones I bought actually say 300 Blackout on the box, not 300 Whisper. I persoanlly don;t know much about the red tipped AMAX bullet it is loaded with.
Do a search. I covered it a few months back the whisper and blk ammo from Hornady are exactly the same
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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by 300Blk » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:42 pm

I tend to avoid subsonic lighter than about 215 grains. It is probably reliable with a suppressor. I

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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by harrishmasher » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:58 pm

harrishmasher wrote:
300Blk wrote:I would not use existing subsonic for defense, but if you want to, use the most reliable. Probably Remington 220.
What about the Hornady 208 gr loading? The ones I bought actually say 300 Blackout on the box, not 300 Whisper. I persoanlly don;t know much about the red tipped AMAX bullet it is loaded with.
I did a bunch of searching and didn't find it. Maybe you can provide a link? Thanks!

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Re: Best Subsonic Ammo for Defensive Use

Post by Wo0dzm3n » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:52 pm

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