Is 1/8 twist on the way out?

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Re: Is 1/8 twist on the way out?

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Funny considering how LMT was originally going with 1-10 twist. I thought the 1-8 gave the best OVERALL performance with subs and supers.
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I wouldn't get relly worked up over the change to 1:7". Seriously, did your rifle(s) all of a sudden stop stabilizing the ammunition you're currently using because of this announcement? No, of course not.

FWIW, it's already been mentioned that going to the 1:7" was mainly for the benefit of +240gr. bullets. I don't think a lot of guys are shooting those. You hear a lot of talk regarding ammo and reloading recipes with bullet weights in the 220gr.-225gr. range. It's certainly not as common to hear of people loading the more expensive 240gr. SMK's.

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Re: Is 1/8 twist on the way out?

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2bad4u2 wrote:I wouldn't get relly worked up over the change to 1:7". Seriously, did your rifle(s) all of a sudden stop stabilizing the ammunition you're currently using because of this announcement? No, of course not.

FWIW, it's already been mentioned that going to the 1:7" was mainly for the benefit of +240gr. bullets. I don't think a lot of guys are shooting those. You hear a lot of talk regarding ammo and reloading recipes with bullet weights in the 220gr.-225gr. range. It's certainly not as common to hear of people loading the more expensive 240gr. SMK's.

Don't sweat the small stuff - unless of course you have to.

we do exist i tell you...we are not just a myth :lol:
i'm not sweating it, the 247 cast has been printing good groups, with nice round holes. when i have the time i'll try them out to 100 yards and see if they are still doing well.
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Re: Is 1/8 twist on the way out?

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sinsir wrote:
2bad4u2 wrote:I wouldn't get relly worked up over the change to 1:7". Seriously, did your rifle(s) all of a sudden stop stabilizing the ammunition you're currently using because of this announcement? No, of course not.

FWIW, it's already been mentioned that going to the 1:7" was mainly for the benefit of +240gr. bullets. I don't think a lot of guys are shooting those. You hear a lot of talk regarding ammo and reloading recipes with bullet weights in the 220gr.-225gr. range. It's certainly not as common to hear of people loading the more expensive 240gr. SMK's.

Don't sweat the small stuff - unless of course you have to.

we do exist i tell you...we are not just a myth :lol:
i'm not sweating it, the 247 cast has been printing good groups, with nice round holes. when i have the time i'll try them out to 100 yards and see if they are still doing well.
I actually own the same mold bu haven't used it yet. Probably won't for some time. Hard to say if it will benefit or not. As JohnNH said above, there's a lot of different things that go into developing accurate cast bullets and loads. By chance are you relatively new to casting?
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In 3 months we'll all be talking about how the 1 in 7" doesn't stabilize 110 gr V-Max bullets. Then it'll be on! :lol:
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2bad4u2 wrote:
sinsir wrote:
2bad4u2 wrote:I wouldn't get relly worked up over the change to 1:7". Seriously, did your rifle(s) all of a sudden stop stabilizing the ammunition you're currently using because of this announcement? No, of course not.

FWIW, it's already been mentioned that going to the 1:7" was mainly for the benefit of +240gr. bullets. I don't think a lot of guys are shooting those. You hear a lot of talk regarding ammo and reloading recipes with bullet weights in the 220gr.-225gr. range. It's certainly not as common to hear of people loading the more expensive 240gr. SMK's.

Don't sweat the small stuff - unless of course you have to.

we do exist i tell you...we are not just a myth :lol:
i'm not sweating it, the 247 cast has been printing good groups, with nice round holes. when i have the time i'll try them out to 100 yards and see if they are still doing well.
I actually own the same mold bu haven't used it yet. Probably won't for some time. Hard to say if it will benefit or not. As JohnNH said above, there's a lot of different things that go into developing accurate cast bullets and loads. By chance are you relatively new to casting?
yes i am new to casting, but am learning from a guy who has been around the block a time or three,ass deep into casting and has a hardon for hensley and gibbs molds. i actualy found him 3 at a small gunshop in tallahassee fla for $25 each if you can believe it

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Re: Is 1/8 twist on the way out?

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Ok, Does this mean I need to wait or go ahead with my build? I've been gathering parts, but haven't bought the barrel just yet. I want to optimize my ability with this round in both super and subsonic. Is the 1/7 going to be better, worse, or the same with the supers? I realize it'll stabilize the 220 gr + bullets better, but what about overall use?
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Re: Is 1/8 twist on the way out?

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wlc wrote:Is the 1/7 going to be better, worse, or the same with the supers? I realize it'll stabilize the 220 gr + bullets better, but what about overall use?
I have a feeling that 1:8 will still be the ideal choice for people who want to shoot the lightest supersonics but still want to try subsonics too.
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wlc wrote:Ok, Does this mean I need to wait or go ahead with my build? I've been gathering parts, but haven't bought the barrel just yet. I want to optimize my ability with this round in both super and subsonic. Is the 1/7 going to be better, worse, or the same with the supers? I realize it'll stabilize the 220 gr + bullets better, but what about overall use?
Do you plan on shooting mostly subs and heavy bullets? Or a SBR? If not the 1:8 is fine.

I was planning on shooting 250 gr cast bullets, at 950-1040 fps ... so a 1:7 would be better for me. .. Also, some of the round nose bullets apparently are having some tail wag. I shoot over 90% subsonic. I also was going to SBR my lower, so again the 1:7 twist would have been better for my and the shooting I had planned to do.

As a dealer a 1:8 now is going to be a hard sell. They could not keep the cat in the bag any longer. Robert new the 1:7 was going to be in his handi rifle but said nothing... also micro7 is apparently going to 1:7 too. He had to know this. Had I known i would have NOT bought a 1:8. I would have waited the 3 months for a 1:7.

Butt hurt? Yea, some. As a company man had he let us know the 1:8's would have sat. I think I am more pissed my rifle has not arrived yet (i doubt it has shipped). The 1:8 is fine for supers and subs up to 200 maybe 220, baffle strikes will be less of a risk with a 1:7 as your fps is more critical with a 1:8.
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Re: Is 1/8 twist on the way out?

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agriebel wrote:Funny considering how LMT was originally going with 1-10 twist. I thought the 1-8 gave the best OVERALL performance with subs and supers.
LMT went with 1/7 twist.
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