The debate is over. 300blk is hear to stay. Meet the HK237 and HK337!

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The debate is over. 300blk is hear to stay. Meet the HK237 and HK337!

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A lot of 300blk users have taken grief from 300blk critics. To me the debate is simply over. CZ is already making their new Bren 2/806 in 300blk and now HK is doing it too. It's here to stay folks. 300blk is the future of short barrel rifles. It is simply a near perfect spec-ops and police round. If we ever see cheap steel case 300blk I think the round will over shadow 5.56x45 and 7.62x39 very quickly. Enjoy the articles. R
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300 whisper has been reasonably popular in Europe for some time with military and police. As I understand it they are more free to work around the trademark laws that held it back here. I know of a small manufacturer here in the States that was bidding contracts for SBR's a few years ago in Europe.

The European manufacturers now see a big enough market here, to export.

It's interesting to see what's available other places that are more used to urban issues.
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Yeahhhh I sure hate to admit it but the Euros really do produce better mill/law firearms than the US. Mainly dew to having smaller armies that are more easily/cheaply reequipped. The last few guns I bought that were made in the USA had problems. Not so with the last couple of Euro made guns. Makes me depressed actually.
I was looking at buying one of those B&T 300blk guns when they came to the usa. Then I found out about the Bren 805/Bren 2. CZ is really killing it in the USA right now. Looks like they are going to stay on the offensive too. As they have already said the Bren 2 is coming to the USA for public sale in 2018.
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RAINS wrote:Yeahhhh I sure hate to admit it but the Euros really do produce better mill/law firearms than the US. Mainly dew to having smaller armies that are more easily/cheaply reequipped. The last few guns I bought that were made in the USA had problems. Not so with the last couple of Euro made guns. Makes me depressed actually.
I was looking at buying one of those B&T 300blk guns when they came to the usa. Then I found out about the Bren 805/Bren 2. CZ is really killing it in the USA right now. Looks like they are going to stay on the offensive too. As they have already said the Bren 2 is coming to the USA for public sale in 2018.
Further proof that 300blk is catching on. The FBI is going to start using the cartridge!http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... Newsletter


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The Europeans make nice firearms because 1 they've been doing it longer. 2 they don't have to lawyer proof everything. 3 they can build a rifle that optimize a 10-12 inch barrel and that's the way is released.
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^^^^^^^ You NAILED IT!

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Awesome that HK is getting on board.

Yeah KAC, Daniel Defense, AAC, and Wilson Combat are all terrible guns. SOME Euro guns MAY be better but their freedoms aren't and AMERICAN firearm companies contribute to keeping it that way. I'll support them first when I can.
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KAC, Daniel Defense, AAC, and Wilson Combat do make top tier very high quality firearms. However all of them are based directly on a 60 year old design. We all need to vote with all wallets and buy USA. However the USA needs to step it up with more modern MSRs.




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